🇫🇷 All Together As One For France 🙌 pic.twitter.com/chvrJpSSJ9— SPORF (@Sporf) July 17, 2018
Me: A French Brexit! But why?
C: Because EU has too much control over the French people and I think it will be good for France to be outside the EU.
Me: There might be a point, but why would you walk away from the world’s largest economic zone? What’s the cost of it? Look at the UK.
C: Of course Brexit is a lesson for French people as well. They need to be ready to negotiate straight away.
Me: I know Macron said under his presidency if there was a referendum, France may well have voted to leave. But is that true? Is that the sentiment?
C: Well, a lot of people think that. Also, we are paying into EU economy so our salaries will be higher.
Me: What do you mean? In what way?
C: EU has been a vanity project for the Germans. They were worse off before EU, unlike the French economy that was doing better.
Me: I found the actual value of the Euro is quite different in different countries. I found it quite surprising how that unbalance was allowed to happen. If you have the same currency, it should be the role of the EU to make sure that the purchasing power should be the same as well, or at least similar.
C: Yes, I remember when Euro was first introduced there was a complicated chart and people just charged anything they pleased.
Me: So do you think outside EU, wages in France will be better? Do you think with a smaller market, the French economy will have to offer a lot more to big corps to appear lucrative to them? Every country will have to follow the Irish model of offering tax havens. That will only benefit a few compared to the mass.
C: Yes because the French economy was better at the time when we joined Euro and to avoid the effect on the economy, they put a cap on wages. I believe once outside EU, we will have a lot more negotiating power especially with our close ties with African nations.
Me: Ah yes the ex-French colonies.
C: Yes, just like there are many ex-colonies the UK can benefit from. And also, not just business, there will be less expenses on security, with all these jihadists, and it’s been crazy in France the last few years…and it’s the same in the UK as well I’ve noticed.
Me: Don’t think the security expenses will come down, and besides, if France exits, you’ll lose all the access to Europol. But true, UK and France have been biggest targets on the list of the terrorists.
C: It’s just crazy. And you need to look at the profile of these people. They lead western lifestyle, drink, smoke, go to nightclubs and then one day they get the illumination that I have to kill people now. The government needs to be stricter about who they let in. The UK has got a much stronger immigration policy than in France. You can just come in and disappear from the system.
Me: It’s not that it doesn’t happen here either, but much less I believe. But you need surveillance on the terror suspects. I believe for the attacks in Bataclan, and in Nice, the attackers were known to the authorities?
C: Yes but there’s a bit conspiracy going on. They want to appease the human rights organisations but they aren’t worried about the general public. There are people who go to Syria, to Iraq, they fight with the jihadists and come back and we just say yes, welcome back and they then disappear before making an attack again.
Me: it’s much stricter here, I mean incidents do happen but they are under heavy surveillance I believe, and some are charged as they come back.
C: That’s the right thing to do. In fact, they should be turned away and we should tell them, go back to where you went fighting.
Me: You can’t take their citizenship away, you can charge them.
C: And then they go to jail and convert other people so they blow themselves up. There is a big cover-up.
C: Where did you go? In Disneyland?
Me: No, just north of Paris. It’s a place near Compiègne.
C: Ah I know. Very nice place. Very green. Did you see the big palace?
Me: Yes it was awesome. And we liked Soissons.
C: You know there is a place in Compiègne where the Germans surrendered the first big war, and during the second, when they defeated France, they wanted the treaty signed at the same place.
Me: Yes the Versailles treaty. We went to that place in Clarière d’armistice.
C: You know that part of France is so beautiful and it’s the cradle of France. It’s very green. And l’île de France actually comes from this region where the old Frankish kingdom used to be.
Me: I did wonder a long time back why Paris is called that name. I thought it’s all the rivers around it.
C: Yes it’s confusing, you call it the Isle of France but there is no island. But that region hasn’t changed with time, the houses, way of life everything just remained the same.
Me: We really enjoyed there and definitely will go back.
C: That part of Paris is beautiful, around the river Oise. Well, there are other areas that are not so good…
Me: That’s probably the same in every big city. London has some notorious boroughs. What sort of problem are there in Paris?
C: It’s the Japanese mafia.
Me: I see, what sort of problem is there? Gang violence?
C: Yes, mainly. Recently Japan government has a big cultural event in Paris so they had to send people to clean up some of the areas.
Me: Sounds crazy.
C: Yes. Paris used to do such a nice place. And now it’s dirty, full of graffiti, gangs…I was away for a few years, and the first time I went back to Paris, I was horrified. And now you go to Eiffel Tower, it’s covered with security, it doesn’t feel the same.
Me: Yes last year we went there. We just wanted to go to the garden, but even then you have to go through security, so we didn’t bother in the end.
C: It’s a shame, I know it’s needed so deranged people don’t blow us up.
Me: Yes, but in Paris, after so many attacks, you see armed guards and you feel secure that the government is doing something. We don’t have any armed guards.
C: That’s just a decoy. The government can do a lot more. This Macron is useless.
Me: I thought he’s quite liked in France at the beginning? I know he made a few unpopular moves, especially with unions…
C: Macron is secretly building an army. It’s not French national army but his own army. No president has ever done that…well maybe Charles de Gaul during the Algerian war, but that was a different time and he was heavily criticised for it. But what’s Macron’s motive? Nobody knows.
Me: That’s bizarre. What’s his motive? Is he planning a coup? You’d understand when you’re in opposition but he’s the president of the country!
C: Macron is an awful choice. People were besotted by him, but now they can see his true colours. The whole of Europe has become pacifist. I don’t like it now.
Me: Well the EU is above all an economic union. There are a lot of contradictions amongst its member states and a lot of scepticism between each other. It will eventually fail because of the inherent differences between the countries. Just think about Eurovision.
C: Haha yes that is a big farce now. But the biggest challenge is Europe has to close its doors. We can not afford any more people.
Me: But there’s plenty of room, it depends on the governments approach and how much they engage with the population to tell them why they need to help the refugees.
C: I agree with you, they need to be helped, but there should be a limit. Some say it’s in the bible, if somebody comes to your house, you should let them in. But that’s the concept of a pilgrimage. You left them to stay, get rest, then they will be away. Bible doesn’t say that when someone comes to your house you feed them for the lifetime.
Me: But that’s what governments are for. They should ensure that people coming here are not socially isolated. And that’s why it can’t just be a government process. The people will need to get involved in that process.
C: Or I have a better solution. They want to come to France? Let them come to France. But send them to a remote island in Pacific that is owned by France. I bet you have places like that with UK as well…sovereign territories.
Me: Yes, the old colonies…
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